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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show. Opinions are their own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of their employer, friends, neighbors, or even each other.  

Apr 19, 2025

Jon farms and Eric drives. Apple case in the UK won't be secret, don't blow up systems on your way out the door, and CVE gets a new maintainer. Ramp meters proven to work, and who doesn't need a little carrot cake in their life?


Apr 11, 2025

Jon and Eric mull over a new podcast idea, Door Talk. Eric looks forward to a drive and Jon has bees, seedlings, and fond memories of an Explorer. AI is making password hacking easier while Patch Tuesday slides through with plenty of folks riding side-saddle. Question: Is bringing back extinct species a Good...


Apr 5, 2025

Jon returns from spring break, and Eric's getting (house) improvements done. Bezos' Kuiper project has to launch a lot of satellites in the next year, Wikimedia's bot problem and AI data poisoning projects, is there actually a Signal vulnerability, and 23 and Me's bankruptcy declaration. For fun we have the Artemis...


Mar 28, 2025

When is a podcast not a podcast? Eric answers that question.


Mar 22, 2025

Eric and Jon do #notMuch over the weekend; Apple's hearing over ADP begins, AI Search (referrals) are growing rapidly, Apple will support e2ee RCS (blue+green=teal?), and now (not?) to roll back CISA firings. Eric enjoys Real (Tasty) Ramen, and maybe we can regrow our teeth in a couple years.