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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show. Opinions are their own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of their employer, friends, neighbors, or even each other.  

May 9, 2025

Eric and Jon both had very boring* weekends. Reckless Rabbits and Scattered Spiders discussed along with xAI private keys. Amazon achieves space pinecone and astrophysicists track down the origin of heavy metals (well, some of them, at least).


May 3, 2025

Jon mows and auctions, Eric's thinking of game development. Misuses of Claude, World Passkey Day, and the FBI's IC3 report of scam impact in 2024. For fun we have the 'blank slate' -- a small EV truck coming soon, and making geometry dash with redstone in vanilla minecraft.


Apr 26, 2025

Eric makes it home and tries smoking a ham. Jon gets into his front door and the bees are good. Record breaking botnets. Cybersecurity reports. Peep origins. Extraterrestrial life.


Apr 19, 2025

Jon farms and Eric drives. Apple case in the UK won't be secret, don't blow up systems on your way out the door, and CVE gets a new maintainer. Ramp meters proven to work, and who doesn't need a little carrot cake in their life?


Apr 11, 2025

Jon and Eric mull over a new podcast idea, Door Talk. Eric looks forward to a drive and Jon has bees, seedlings, and fond memories of an Explorer. AI is making password hacking easier while Patch Tuesday slides through with plenty of folks riding side-saddle. Question: Is bringing back extinct species a Good...