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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space as developers, architects and leaders for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show.

Opinions are their own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of their employer, friends, neighbors, or even each other.


Apr 28, 2018

Eric is back from the road trip. IoT, the gift that keeps on giving. Eric chats about hotel security cards. Jon channels Harry Potter with Obiliviate DNS. The Grand Canyon is really cool and Jon tries installing a garage door opener.


Apr 20, 2018

Peter Wooley joins Jon to talk javascript while Eric cannot prevent it. NPM gains package signing capabilities; a casino is hacked courtesy of their fish tank; and once DeepFake matures, how do we tell what's real? Peter recommends playing Celeste on the Switch, Jon should have read a couple more books about bees,...

Apr 15, 2018

Gmail doesn't follow email address standards; having your accountant hacked is Not Good; and confidential data is found in VirusTotal. Eric shares a fun what-if, and Jon is mesmerized watching sorting algorithms.


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Apr 6, 2018

Jon chats about his car and beekeeping. Cloudflare's Privacy Focused DNS and an ARM v Intel post. Will Apple use its own chips in it Macs? And poor, poor Panera... Eric tries hiking Multnomah Falls and ends up hiking somewhere else. Jon gets a kick out of colors.


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