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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space as developers, architects and leaders for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show.

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Oct 26, 2019

Eric goes pot shopping and Jon loves carrot cake. Has google achieved quantum supremacy? Biometric missteps, cache failures, Mercedes app glitches, and more cryptojacking containers. Eric joins the Rebble Alliance, the Air Force retires their 8" floppies, and bees can do math now.

Oct 19, 2019

Apple Farms and Drones. Spy Chip Followup. Much Sudo About Nothing. Bluetooth Beaconing Enable Theft also Enables Mansplaining (what?!?) and some Reductor Malware details. Yellow lights are scientifically proven to be too short and Paul Graham proposes a language.

  • 0:00 - Intro - Apple Farms and Drones
  • 10:06 - Spy Chip...

Oct 12, 2019

Eric paints and buys Jon a Yubikey. Jon ditches the Costanza wallet. Hacking back against ransomware,, and patch your routers folks. Stalking eyeballs, Twitter sells your 2FA phone number, and more cart skimmers. Eric's audiobook journey, publishers strongarm libraries, Ken Thompson had a good...

Oct 5, 2019

This Week: Gambling, Research, Takedowns, Phishing, Jailbreaks. Fun with Madeleine Albright & Colin Powell and the periodic table.