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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space as developers, architects and leaders for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show.

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May 28, 2021

More water problems for Eric. Jon makes cheese. Apple admits it has a problem and Jon provides an example - then talks about the RSA Hack Ten Year Reunion show! Eric finds Crypto, COBOL and Taxes somewhat funny and Jon follows the trail that defined "Aerosol".

May 22, 2021

Eric tries his hand at brisket, and Jon has a cow (literally). A cool IMSI-catcher project, four android zero days, and a way to use Apple's Find My network to send arbitrary data. For fun we have "Dangit, Git!", China's mars rover landing, and the Soviet Venera program focused on Venus.

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May 14, 2021

Jon watches fencing this time, Eric tries out the new grill. Ransomware hits a pipeline and people bag gasoline. Eric figures SSH+YubiKeys is one more step toward a passwordless future. Jon chats up the Frag Attack and Eric likes the logo. A mobile chip bug has a massive footprint. Eric's curiosity is piqued...

May 8, 2021

Eric is civic-y and ready to BBQ. Jon does more Bee stuff. Space news is good, Signal is rocking it, Anti-vaxxers + Q(R) codes, Google talks about bad apps and developers, and a(nother?) gatekeeper bypass. For fun we have, an immunity tracker dashboard, and did you know there was an annual Planetary...

May 1, 2021

Eric and Jon "discuss" cooking with fire. Jon buys an oboe. Eric reminisces about a childhood home now in the news while Jon offers Captain Fantastic. Google Argentina sighs "Whoops!" and a Ransomware Gang yells "Stonks!" Jon drops RotaJakiro and CIA Malware. Eric shares thoughts about left-handed booksellers while Jon...