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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space as developers, architects and leaders for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show.

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Nov 25, 2022

It's Thanksgiving week in the US. More FTX nonsense. Apple's "privacy" is not what you think. Zeppelin ransomware keys. is exactly what you think it is. Chicken chicken chicken. Help for Honeybees. Mother Learning books.

Nov 19, 2022

Eric and Jon both go on road trips, Eric goes stargazing, Jon fails to fix his mule. The FTX debacle continues apace, an "accidental" 70k lockscreen bypass bounty, a russian mobile software company masquerading as a US company, and 15k wordpress sites compromised to boost SEO for worthless Q&A sites. For fun we have...

Nov 11, 2022

Eric goes to a High School play while Jon plays with a laser engraver over a soggy weekend. Eric chats about MFA in Antarctica. Jon talks simple CVEs and order of operations. Web3 is still going great, FYI. Finally, check out a Submarine Cable Map online and decide for yourself if bees have feelings.

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Nov 5, 2022

Halloween passes quickly this year; Eric finishes his kitchen magnetic board project, and Jon finally sets up the laser engraver. Three years later (was episode 70!) Amazon finally builds Eero into 5th gen Echo devices. An act may pass to help the government use open source software better, the FTC takes steps against...