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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space as developers, architects and leaders for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show.

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Dec 30, 2023

Jon has a relaxing Christmas while Eric faces More Water Issues. Also, tire size matters. The first two Lapsus$ teens are sentenced in the UK, Japan plans to crack down on app stores, Ukraine hacks back for Kyivstar, and SSH servers under attack. What is a Flow Battery and is it better than Lithium Ion, and the Juno...

Dec 22, 2023

Eric recounts a 2500 mile roadtrip that includes a kidnapping while Jon enjoys concert week. Eric has a secret shoe shopping habit that has been compromized while Jon moots about a map mess. Garage chemists powered by ChatGPT and the world revolves around checks.

Dec 16, 2023

Eric and Jon depart in two directions on road trips, Vans, Zoo Lights, and Bee Hives. Binance will be scoured for {evil,taxes}, Beeper Blues, and Push Notification spying by governments. A fun bonanza with We Are Bob, Humane, and Cassiopeia A in stereo(-ish).

Dec 9, 2023

Eric gets a new toy and installs a license plate holder thanks to Amazon - and no thanks to Amazon subscriptions. Jon gets his new router table set up and finds a photo frustration. Eric uses an (invalid) excuse to be annoyed with JavaScript while Jon checks in on iOS zero-days and Citrix bugs. The Internation Space...

Dec 2, 2023

Eric travels for Thanksgiving and Jon goes there and back again. Adversarial ML against LLMs, whether generated code is secure (it's not), the demise of a Crypto Drainer, and a complaint against Meta's new policy of pay-us-so-we-don't-track-you. For fun we have the California Railroad Museum and a video explaining just...