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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space as developers, architects and leaders for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show.

Opinions are their own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of their employer, friends, neighbors, or even each other.


Jul 12, 2024

Jon is away on vacation and Eric retreats from the heat. The FCC is cracking down on a robocall purveyor and the DoJ takes down an RT 'botnet' of fake social media accounts. Eric gets an unprompted 5* review to brighten his day, and Jon visits 'the largest ancient castle in the world.'

Jul 6, 2024

Jon makes some hay, Eric goes to a ball game. Authy inadvertently plays fast and loose with an API while loses control of their javascript, but Cloudflare steps in to save the day. Old man Eric rejoices in advances in hearing science and Jon discovers what Denisovans ate for dinner.

  • 0:00 - Introduction
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Jun 29, 2024

Eric returns from vacation and Jon makes Hay. Microsoft retires its under sea data center experiment, YouTube attempts to get artists onboard for AI Music, Apple may (or may not) be compliant with the DMA, and a Krebs master class in OSInt. Sleep cleans your brain, and how to make hay.

Jun 20, 2024

Eric is on vacation, so Jon is up late. Panera lost some employee data and Snowflake is updating stuff. Eric enjoys the South Pacific Epcot while Jon looks forward to going to a library.

Jun 15, 2024

Eric graduates his last, and Jon hosts a field trip. Club Penguin fans post inside documents from Disney (among others) and Apple announces how they will securely and privately execute LLMs in the cloud. Wyoming nuclear power plant breaks ground, the Civ7 trailer is released, and Astronaut William Anders passes away...