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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show. Opinions are their own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of their employer, friends, neighbors, or even each other.  

Dec 6, 2024

Thanksgiving happened. Maybe don't threaten a security researcher. Phishers like cheap TLDs. Attacking LLMs for fun and profit. Students send a rocket beyond the Kármán line and Jon gets a ChipDrop.


Nov 30, 2024

Eric and Jon prep for Thanksgiving with Tech Support Woes. Bluesky's day has come -- including 'interesting' persistence capabilities. Macy's 154 Million Dollar finding, and Starbucks has to resort to pen and paper timekeeping. For fun we have McKean's Inversion, BART on camera, Reality Builder TV, and a lost city...


Nov 23, 2024

We're trying out Bluesky! Eric hates painting, Jon fixed his shower. Is Google catching up with Shielded Emails? Phishing with an SVG inception. Apple patches some things. Finastra is (sorta) frank with its customers. Rats in Cars getting Froot Loops. New species of bee discovered...

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Nov 16, 2024

Eric prepares to Paint and Jon sightsees. Canada tells TikTok to shut down its office, a trove of MacOS escapes, and an ML Bug Bonanza from JFrog. Displays get twisted, and Jon visits an amazing 12th century Vishnu temple.


Nov 8, 2024

Eric's garage has a beep, Jon makes his way to India. Phish n' Ships is a great name, but really it should be Phish n' Not-Ships... An EMERALDWHALE makes its way through exposed Git configurations. Eric appreciates Wind Turbine Art and Jon discovers Mayan ruins via LiDAR.