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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show. Opinions are their own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of their employer, friends, neighbors, or even each other.  

Jul 26, 2025

Eric publishes a book, and Jon is trepidacious. The National Nuclear Security Administration is affected by the Sharepoint attack, and DNS is used as a file transfer system. Amazon buys Bee (Echo, coming soon to a wrist near you), and we're one step closer to a universal cancer vaccine.


Jul 19, 2025

Eric gets new doors (almost) and Jon gets A/C. Amazon launches more Kuiper satellites with the help of SpaceX. You can use Passkeys to encrypt files and Android get's Gemini whether the user wants it or not. GPS is not the only location game in town and lots of mammals evolved into ant eaters?

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Jul 12, 2025

A 4th of July was had by both. An extension hijacking campaign that infected as many as 2.3 million users and software to protect the small web from AI scrapers with computational overhead. For fun we have car tipping (off a cliff!?), and evidence for even more water on Mars.


Jul 4, 2025

Hay is Jon's nemesis and Eric has pictures taken. Cloudflare blocks AI Bots by default. After 7 years, Ubuntu disables Spectre protections. ERYAT (Eric reserves yet another truck) and stumbles nostagically across Make Magazine. Jon finds a 4,800 year old Egyptian.