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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show. Opinions are their own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of their employer, friends, neighbors, or even each other.  

Aug 29, 2025

Eric plays with epoxy resin, Jon has a new calf. Cybersabotage on your ex-employer will get you 4 years. There are 1200 fewer robocallers thanks to the FCC. Password manager plugins for web browsers can be fooled. The Commodore 64 is back and really old honey is discovered in Italy.

  • 0:00 - Introduction
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Aug 23, 2025

Eric prints and Jon fixes washer. The Noodlophile stealer propagates via legal infringement claims, and portal auth issues allow control of connected cars. For fun we have book four of the Lady Astronaut series, and using generative AI to create targeted antibiotics for drug resistant diseases.

  • 0:00 - Intro
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Aug 16, 2025

Eric makes it home from vacation, Jon goes fishing. Tough time to be graduating in Computer Science. DrawAFish.com security incident. AOL discontinues down dial up service. Mendenhall Glacier makes the local news.


Aug 9, 2025

Eric's on vacation and Jon wrangles cows. Cloudflare accuses perplexity of stealth scraping tactics, Google tweaks their disclosure policy, Microsoft studies AI impact on jobs, and OpenAI shared chats disclose a little (lot) too much. For fun, how about a hike in the Tetons, and Potatoes from Tomatoes.

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Aug 1, 2025

Eric has a problem with "smart" smoke alarms. Jon feeds happy cows round bales of hay (but not the fermented kind). Debian making 64 bit time work with 32 bits. A woman is unaware she is working for North Korea. Eric plays tower defense with CSS. Jon finds scarecrow spiders.