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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show. Opinions are their own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of their employer, friends, neighbors, or even each other.  

Aug 12, 2023

Eric and Jon return from (mostly driving) trips. Eric visits Crater Parks. A settlement for the family of Henrietta Lacks, and no immediate relief from app store fees. Second hand experience of a bank scam, and the most accurate acoustic side channel attack yet. For fun Eric visits Craters of the Moon (and Crater Lake), and an internet superconductor validation race.