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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space as developers, architects and leaders for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show.

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Jun 29, 2024

Eric returns from vacation and Jon makes Hay. Microsoft retires its under sea data center experiment, YouTube attempts to get artists onboard for AI Music, Apple may (or may not) be compliant with the DMA, and a Krebs master class in OSInt. Sleep cleans your brain, and how to make hay.