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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show. Opinions are their own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of their employer, friends, neighbors, or even each other.  

Feb 8, 2025

Eric has a mysteriously good interaction with Government, and Jon says goodbye to the Explorer. The US Copyright Agency publishes reports about AI and copyright, and Google publishes a report about misuse of Gemini by bad actors. For fun we have the Magic Puzzle Company and the benefits (for Astrolab) and consequences of having Astrobotic's first moon landing fail last year.