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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show. Opinions are their own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of their employer, friends, neighbors, or even each other.  

Aug 29, 2025

Eric plays with epoxy resin, Jon has a new calf. Cybersabotage on your ex-employer will get you 4 years. There are 1200 fewer robocallers thanks to the FCC. Password manager plugins for web browsers can be fooled. The Commodore 64 is back and really old honey is discovered in Italy.