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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show. Opinions are their own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of their employer, friends, neighbors, or even each other.  

Feb 21, 2026

More AI coding, only Peter can go to [OpenAI], Human Rentals, Backup Persistence, and Really Old Vulnerabilities. Have fun on the Useless Web and why not release genetically engineered biophages? What could go wrong.