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Jon and Eric have worked in the security space for more years than they care to count. From commentary on current events to random musings, they chat (mostly) about security and technology topics. However, life is more than just the day job. From beekeeping adventures to hiking mountains to favorite shows, there's always something fun to wrap up the show. Opinions are their own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of their employer, friends, neighbors, or even each other.  

Mar 13, 2026

Eric updates Squares! after a 15 years hiatus and Jon decides to become an Apple Developer. The FBI issues a scam alert on planning and zoning permits. Google buys security company Wiz. Stryker Medical hit by wiper malware. NASA has cool eyes and we're now modeling every biological molecule.